Interviewing
Negotiating an offer
Do not name the first number. Get the offer in writing, then ask with enthusiasm and a specific, market-grounded target.
Companies expect negotiation; many leave room in the first number. Negotiation is a short, learnable skill that compounds for years — every raise and refresh starts from the package you accept now.
Core principles from Patrick McKenzie's classic advice and coaches like Josh Doody:
- Do not give the first number if you can avoid it. Early "salary expectations" screens: deflect to learning fit first, or give a wide market range based on level rather than your current pay.
- Never disclose current comp unless legally required or strategically useful; many jurisdictions ban asking. Current pay anchors you downward.
- Get the offer in writing, then negotiate. Verbal excitement is fine; numbers move after a written package.
- Express genuine enthusiasm, then ask. People help candidates they believe will accept if terms work.
- Ask for specifics: more equity, more sign-on, higher base, higher level — pick the levers that matter and be concrete.
- Stay collaborative, not adversarial. You are solving a mutual fit problem.
Walking through the scripts
Sample deflect on early expectations:
"I'm most focused on finding the right role and level. Once there's mutual interest, I'm confident we can find a package that matches the market for that level. Happy to discuss bands when you're ready to share the range for this role."
Sample response after a written offer:
"I'm excited about the team and the work — this is my top choice if we can close the gap. Based on market data for this level and another offer I'm considering, is there flexibility to move toward
$XTC, ideally via additional RSUs or sign-on? I'm happy to talk through constraints on your side."
Replace $X with a number grounded in levels.fyi and competing data, not a fantasy. Asking 5–15% above the offer is common when you have leverage; exact norms vary by company and market tightness (as of when this was written, markets fluctuate — use current data).
Warning
Ultimatums ("match this or I walk") only work if you will walk. Bluffing poorly ends negotiations. If you prefer this company at a slightly lower number, say so and ask them to do their best.
Example
You receive $240k TC. Market for the level is ~$260–280k. You have a competing offer at $270k. You thank them, restate enthusiasm, mention the competing TC and ask whether they can reach $275k with equity/sign-on. They come back at $265k. You accept or ask for one more move on sign-on. Either way you captured value without hostility.
Visa and relocation packages are negotiable levers when cash TC is sticky: shipping household goods, temporary housing, immigration counsel, travel for house-hunting. If base will not move, ask where flexibility does exist.
Common mistakes
- Naming a number too early, or disclosing current pay that anchors you down.
- Negotiating a verbal number before it is in writing.
- Hostile ultimatums you will not follow through on.
- Asking for "more" with no specific lever or market number.
Check yourself
A recruiter asks for salary expectations on the first screen. What do you do?
Deflect to fit and level, or give a wide market range for the level — not your current pay.
You have a written $240k and a competing $270k. Market is $260–280k. What do you ask?
Enthusiasm, then a concrete target such as $275k via RSUs or sign-on — not an ultimatum unless you will walk.
Key takeaways
- Do not give the first number. Do not volunteer current pay.
- Negotiate after a written offer, with enthusiasm and specific asks.
- Ground
$Xin market data and competing offers. 5–15% above is a common ask when you have leverage. - Stay collaborative. Bluffed ultimatums end talks.
Further learning
Next, when the grant is options not RSUs: evaluating startup equity.
Salary Negotiation: Make More Money, Be More Valued (Patrick McKenzie)Salary negotiation advice, mostly for engineers. Running total of raises negotiated due to this essay: $15M+.kalzumeus.comRelated
Offers and negotiation
Comp components, why level beats base, market data, negotiation scripts and evaluating startup equity without wishful math.
Compensation components
Compare total compensation across base, bonus, sign-on and equity with real vest math — not base alone.
Juggling multiple offers
Spreadsheet year 1 and years 2–4, score non-comp, then tell your first choice what would make accepting easy. Use deadlines honestly.